tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.comments2023-10-20T02:31:27.135-07:00Public ChristianityFatha Frankhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15763574263631576373noreply@blogger.comBlogger944125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-69089641836124936792023-06-18T10:24:07.794-07:002023-06-18T10:24:07.794-07:00Be sure you get out and buy Kyle's book so he ...Be sure you get out and buy Kyle's book so he won't be living on the streets like the veterans that fought for our freedom for this country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-19085113861080319132023-06-18T10:20:08.828-07:002023-06-18T10:20:08.828-07:00If you read The Bible please Tell me where is says...If you read The Bible please Tell me where is says pastors are to be multi millionaires? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-76278424986634898162023-01-08T20:09:56.053-08:002023-01-08T20:09:56.053-08:00Southeast is sweeping a 500,000 embezzlement umder...Southeast is sweeping a 500,000 embezzlement umder the rug. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-13830777099302395332022-11-30T12:23:06.182-08:002022-11-30T12:23:06.182-08:00Interesting blog posts and comments … however, I c...Interesting blog posts and comments … however, I couldn’t help to notice the original posts was in 2012 … and multiple comments followed … the comments are time stamped but not dated … making it very difficult to understand why someone would suddenly 10 years after the original blog post a comment regarding Kyle Idleman’s recent decision to take a Sabbatical from Southeast Christian Church. <br /><br />The poster is of course “anonymous” and provides zero support for making such serious accusations… and naturally a few other “anonymous” posting follow. Just because someone decides to hide behind a keyboard (Keyboard Courage) and post unsupported accusations about someone or something they simply do not like or agree with … does not make it true … As Christians we are not to gossip … but unfortunately I have heard a few of my Christian friends repeat these same accusations… when asked their source for such accusations… they simply cannot remember and sit back with a blank stare … or might reply with something like … Billy told me … yet they never thought to research the matter on their own.<br /><br />My short “research” could only find this 2012 blog post and a couple recent anonymous comments … sad for all.Randy Andersonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-20947367310871167582022-10-24T18:53:55.403-07:002022-10-24T18:53:55.403-07:00SE is going to lie about Kyle and Matt embezzling ...SE is going to lie about Kyle and Matt embezzling money. It will just go away like a sex scandal in a Catholic Church. They will make it look like Kyle wanted to leave. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-87574365932215169772022-10-12T07:39:27.575-07:002022-10-12T07:39:27.575-07:00Kyle is a celebrity. He rolls around this city lik...Kyle is a celebrity. He rolls around this city like a freakin rock star!!!! Such BS!!!! He didn’t want an associate pastor because he didn’t want to be held accountable! SE is a corporation. They prey on peoples emotions to gain money and power. 🤘🏻Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-4023113772713861562022-10-12T07:33:13.583-07:002022-10-12T07:33:13.583-07:00Thank you for sharing the truth while the leaders ...Thank you for sharing the truth while the leaders of SE lie to the public and the church! What a joke that place is!!!! ✌🏻Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-83071604664233682112022-10-02T17:25:16.353-07:002022-10-02T17:25:16.353-07:00Kyle idleman is on a 90 day sabbatical. He would h...Kyle idleman is on a 90 day sabbatical. He would have you believe it is for rest. He hired his brothers in law to work at Southeast and they both embezzled money. Kyles sabbatical is related to that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-4077642725565679422020-03-22T08:23:28.935-07:002020-03-22T08:23:28.935-07:00I also go to Southeast Christian Church, but I als...I also go to Southeast Christian Church, but I also go to another church on Sundays, this church I have been going to for 43 years. My wife, myself, her sister and Mother were in the first 8 people to start this Church and it has grown to great numbers, but it has grown out of hand, in that the elders are chosen by the pastor and not the church body, no money matters are ever discussed, absolutely nothing ever is discussed on minister salary elder salary, expenses or where any of the money goes. This is why I started attending Southeast Christian, I was leary of how large the church was when we started, but I have come to learn Southeast is for real. They post there income weekly, they tell you that 10.1% goes to missions and I have learned to Love Southeast as the most reliable source of the Triune authority in my area. The doubters come and join us one Sunday and feel the difference, it will not hurt. Thanks for the opportunity to talk about a Great Church with Great Leaders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-19614292778063296142020-02-05T18:34:06.372-08:002020-02-05T18:34:06.372-08:00Very interesting and thought WorthVery interesting and thought WorthAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06471271671079671485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-50166182749008381312019-11-08T15:22:30.860-08:002019-11-08T15:22:30.860-08:00Hello all I go to Southeast church here in Louisvi...Hello all I go to Southeast church here in Louisville Kentucky and I can tell you the people at Southeast church or after God's heart wholly and completely I have never been to a church like this and I love this churchAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06319661677640608940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-21337761400144296482019-01-18T07:24:11.150-08:002019-01-18T07:24:11.150-08:00How do you know the size or price of his house? I&...How do you know the size or price of his house? I'm reading his book and the content seems solid, but I was curious about his income where he said he gives more than his mortgage. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-54544579073958048642019-01-11T13:23:36.851-08:002019-01-11T13:23:36.851-08:00It's easy to see a giant church building and w...It's easy to see a giant church building and wonder what are they doing with the money. I was Leary about SE church myself. We visited a satellite campus and after many talks with the different leaders and Kyle and Dave themselves I assure you they are after God's own heart like King David. Who cares what he value of a home. We all work to provide the best we can for our families and church leaders are no different. I agree with earlier post, judge the fruit. There is much fruit on the SE church tree. If you are unsure come visit and see for yourself or goto secc.org and get a better view of how Jesus is the focus of His church. ThanksMatt1128https://www.blogger.com/profile/14004072251698406936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-91196208148983990752018-03-24T09:30:54.789-07:002018-03-24T09:30:54.789-07:00The label hurts artists who are Christian, actuall...The label hurts artists who are Christian, actually. Take for example Toby Mac. He is definitely labeled a Christian artist and I contend to his detriment in terms of his total reach. I have heard him called the “Christian Justin Timberlake” but he most certainly doesn’t have the same mainstream success. Despite being equally or perhaps even more talented than JT he doesn’t have the mainstream appeal and I attribute that to the Christian label. Whereas Switchfoot, mentioned above, does have mass appeal. While not being overtly Christian in their lyrics, having seen the band and Jon Foreman solo, his message is obvious and quite clear. So to surmise, content is certainly more powerful than label. I think the label helps some believers feel good about their choices but the content is what matters in the end. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-48446034607877321702017-11-16T12:49:12.854-08:002017-11-16T12:49:12.854-08:00Great post! I found your blog today while searchin...Great post! I found your blog today while searching for something totally different but I'm very glad & blessed that I did. I look forward to reading your other post as well. God bless & thank you for taking the time to touch on topics such as this one. That sadly are hard to find discussed in any church in America now a days. And almost solely because of the fear of making anyone uncomfortable or even worse by offending any church goer by challenging their views (faith) or better yet as your post so properly proposes our "allegiance". All Christian's are called to test and see if we are in the faith of Jesus Christ. In the same manner we should all question who our lives are pledging allegiance to. It definitely has me looking at my own spiritual inspection ( evaluation ) in a much deeper manner. Thanks again! - Isidro MJRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691245090810446874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-74052199910611568432017-01-26T05:18:15.014-08:002017-01-26T05:18:15.014-08:00(this is where I regret being silent on this site ...(this is where I regret being silent on this site for the past couple of years, speaking up now gives the impression I'm taking a particular side)<br /><br />Ed, strip away the politics from my post that were only there to frame the point and ask yourself what is worth lamenting. We are called to love God and love our neighbor and everything else we do flows from that. Who is our neighbor? Jesus answered that it's the one with whom *we disagree*. And what I saw last weekend wasn't at all loving (and you could say the same for the protesters, but that will be a separate post). Thus I feel the appropriate response is lament.<br /><br />It's not a now vs then argument for me. My issue then was the same as it is now, the danger of raising our politics above our discipleship. It may not be true in our hearts, but when our discourse becomes so heated over a political issue- when we take it personal- we communicate that our political stance is what's most important to us. It's not that our Christianity is at risk (who am I to say!) but rather our Christian witness- our Christ-likeness. I apologize that I made you feel that way because that is my number one concern- that politics divide brothers in Christ.Fatha Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15763574263631576373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-12959315678917999372017-01-25T06:38:55.394-08:002017-01-25T06:38:55.394-08:00Sencerely,
Ed in Bako.Sencerely,<br />Ed in Bako.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-55623447278430768882017-01-25T06:36:22.540-08:002017-01-25T06:36:22.540-08:00Really Frank? I remember a time not so long ago wh...Really Frank? I remember a time not so long ago when the "lament" came from the other side and was disparaged as unloving and not Christ like. When some would "lament" what was seen as an assault on God given liberty, and the rights that flow from them were margenalized and cautioned to be careful that one might be out of bounds with their very Christiany at risk. Now the shoe is on the other foot its all fair game? Participation in civic discourse for a Christian is fine and expected now but not then?<br />It is fine and expected for Christians to take to the streets and side with such a vulgar display and in soladarity with the taking of unborn children.<br />It was sad to feel the condemnation of my brothers on the left for my beliefs then and now. I am saddend again at the fluidity of their conviction now that the tide has turned.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-7459354893032872752015-01-15T13:21:40.398-08:002015-01-15T13:21:40.398-08:00Could you be over thinking it?
I take it to be pr...Could you be over thinking it?<br /><br />I take it to be pray hard(drink deep) in the morning and see what the day brings.<br /><br />My .02Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00443600000311389167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-40165417007798108242014-08-08T10:56:15.011-07:002014-08-08T10:56:15.011-07:00The leadership at Shepherd of the Hills Church, in...The leadership at Shepherd of the Hills Church, in Porter Ranch (CA), felt led to plant a church in the Santa Clarita Valley. This became Real Life Church. They hired Kyle, paid him a salary, and provided an office and several hundred attendees. Kyle's dad, Ken, took a one year sabbatical from his job in Missouri to help Kyle get the church up and running. They held services in a movie theater for many years and soon had office space locally in Santa Clarita. Kyle left abruptly not long after the church launched (a year or so) and there was a very lengthy search for a leader to replace him. Through God's power that man, Rusty George, led the church to (1) build their own facility and (2) the dynamic growth to which you refer. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-527964394509065012014-07-11T13:29:36.829-07:002014-07-11T13:29:36.829-07:00Thought and heart provoking stuff here. I was kin...Thought and heart provoking stuff here. I was kind of wondering about Kyle and others myself; as to "preaching vs walking" things in general. I think it's wise to be "fruit inspectors", but also to "test the spirits" when it comes to messages (books, articles, etc). Or as a friend likes to say on such things, "Chew the meat and spit out the bones." I've been much to guilty of a judgment, critical spirit in my life, and now in my 60's am trying to be less so . . . "wise as a serpent, but gentle as a dove", so to speak. };-)Patrick Wattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07389184352257587125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-83897090899196325412014-06-09T19:39:07.691-07:002014-06-09T19:39:07.691-07:00Ever since I was younger my dad told me one thing ...Ever since I was younger my dad told me one thing that stuck with me my whole life. He said "just because a song has God's name in it, it means the song is a Christian song. " and while I was reading this I realized that this is absolutely true. Count the number of songs that mention the name of God in it then take out the ones that were meant to exult God and see how many are left. I am Christian and I have been trying yo find myself in music and this has truly helped me do so thank you. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14167779889365144389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-16864370928274967512014-04-01T09:40:19.269-07:002014-04-01T09:40:19.269-07:00"So ask yourself, when you make a decision do..."So ask yourself, when you make a decision do you stop and think whether it would glorify God or whether it is best for you?" <br /><br />I like what you have said and realize that this is something I need to start doing in my decision making process. As I thought about this it came to me - we know we are surrendered when they are one and the same, when what we sincerely want is what will bring glory to God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-42799239793827561342014-01-29T16:33:34.374-08:002014-01-29T16:33:34.374-08:00Maybe you shouldn't use Keith Phillips as an e...Maybe you shouldn't use Keith Phillips as an example of the short and narrow path right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36048814.post-55375399808874369812013-09-21T09:12:55.363-07:002013-09-21T09:12:55.363-07:00Ryan, thanks for stopping by! From what I've s...Ryan, thanks for stopping by! From what I've seen it isn't a negative for Brett personally. In fact, the event has probably afforded him a level of fame he may not have had otherwise. But on a personal level, what would you rather be known for- being one of the greatest hitters of all time or a temper tantrum from a single one of a thousand games he played? And I think we can apply that lesson to ourselves- we may seek the short-term fame at the cost of long-term impact, or lose long-term impact due to a single-time event.Fatha Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15763574263631576373noreply@blogger.com